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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #7874 by eyepiz
I have to say I mostly agree with you Douglas. I have been using SR since 2012 and have two personal licences and have had the companies I have worked for purchase a licences as well even though I don't really need then, since I have my own, I do believe in supporting the developer for his time and effort.

Vray SP3.3 was released over a month ago and was available as a stable public beta another month prior to that, I know it has some major changes and is probably a challenge for the new sampler and the RT engine to work correctly with SR BUT the core functionality have not changed, if fact it can behave exactly like 3.2 as well, event the RT engine has that option.

I know SR has been designed to break with Vray SP updates due to piracy concerns and that is completely understandable however, for the paying customers it is a major inconvenience when we have lost complete functionality for what we have paid for months after a SP release.

I would at least have expected an "intermediate" working version while the new update is being worked on for customers.

I'm probably just upset that another one of my plug-in in my production pipeline had gone EOL as of January 1st 2016 "A&G Tool Company" well at lest I still have full functionality of the plugin even on SP3 until I find an alternative solution.

I have migrated over to SP 3.3 without SR using the built in Vray quick setting and a handful of script to provided some of the SR like functionality. I'm going to be highly suggest Chaos Group to add additional functionality so we don't get left hanging again.

I will probably look into the next SR update if it comes out, but will continue to explore more reliably solutions for the future.
Last edit: 8 years 2 months ago by eyepiz.

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8 years 2 months ago #7878 by subburb
Dear Users,
First of all, i really apologize for this delay.
of course i try to be aware of all news, trying the betas and nighlies, and try to anticipate as much as i can on the future.

I 'm also pretty aware of my actual (unconfortable) situation. I said that i'll do my best to make a new build working with 3.3 at the very beginning of 2016, and this is NOT the case.
I surely missed something important at a moment, and apologize for this.

That said, of course i'm informed as much as i can, but i can't predict future.
I NEVER said that SR 1.8.4 WILL work with Vray 3.3.
I also couldn't predict the release date of Vray 3.3.

every new Vray version leaded to a new, and better SR. that's what i'm trying to do today, as always.
Following your logic, the best was to never create SR at all as it will each time not work with the new Vray version..and so on.

I must say that i do my best to be an honest guy. maybe if you believe the opposite, i am not trying to make money for a last time and move on. i don't give up at all, i work on it hardly taking this new 3.3 as a new SR challenge, and i really don't want to make a badly, fast made, but working verion because i'm under pressure.

@dbowker3d, as you're very new SR user, if you want a refund because you're tired to wait and/or want to stay on 3.3, just ask me.

My mistake was to announce a date i finally couldn't honour.
We learn everyday.. Next time i'll say same than Vlado for numerous Vray updates : It'll comes when it'll be ready!

just to say, (not an excuse) Vray4C4d users are waiting for 1.9 update and 3.x engine for more than 1 year... ;)

Vray 3.3 is TOTALLY Breaking the rules in the Vray evolution. that's what i didn't figured enough. Maybe Corona pushed Chaos quite a bit in a new direction (no settings at all for 90% of users).

Thank you for your honesty and your opinon. Eyepiz, thanks again for your unvaluable help.
Go back to work, Subburb !
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8 years 2 months ago #7879 by dbowker3d@gmail.com
Thanks for this heartfelt and much more detailed update Jerome. This, I think, is what many of us were hoping to hear. I believe most people, myself especially, are understanding when things don't go as planned, as long as the other party is clear and upfront about it. So speaking for myself, we're good- and no hard feelings either way I hope.

I also appreciate the offer for a refund until the new release is ready, but I don't think I need that. I'll just be looking forward to when it comes out and not think about it until then. I do suggest that any new customers between now and then be given a heads up with the compatibility issues beforehand though.

Can we assume that when the new release is ready that all customers will be getting a notice that it's available?

Good luck! :)

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8 years 2 months ago #7880 by Redsteel

dbowker3d@gmail.com wrote: Can we assume that when the new release is ready that all customers will be getting a notice that it's available?/quote]

I really hope so that will be the case. :) anyway thanks for the heads up subburb, I will be waiting.

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #7885 by Immograph
Will you let us know in this thread when it's done Jerome ?
Thanks for the efforts.
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8 years 2 months ago #7899 by radiosity
I hope to have mistranslated your messages, otherwise I ask
But you are saying ??????
V-Ray 3.3 has a completely new sampler, it was also changed the name in VBAS (Variance-based adaptive sampler), and that's not all!
The Light Cache and management Subdivision are different.
I work in 3d graphics for 18 years, and each update has news, so you should wait until all the plugin is updated, and 'a normal thing.
I use SR since version 0.5, it is a great plugin, and it has always been up to expectations.
Your criticisms are ingisute and NOT MOTIVATE.
You want that vray become more 'fast? Ok, then you can not complain.
To resolve this problem, you can continue to use V-Ray 3.2.
If the SR is for you to have a limit in the work, it means you are not real users Vray.
SR has always made updates quickly, and, I repeat, if you do not understand how big the difference between v-ray 3.2 and 3.3 but not for quality as it is thought the sampler, to what you talk about ????
sorry for my poor language
if I have mistranslated your messages, I will apologize in advance
Radiosity


italian version

Io spero di aver mal tradotto i vostri messaggi, altrimenti vi chiedo
Ma che state dicendo??????
Vray 3.3 ha un sampler COMPLETAMENTE nuovo, infatti è stato cambiato anche il nome in VBAS ( Variance-based adaptive sampler) , e non è tutto qui!
Anche il Light Cache e la gestione delle Subdivision è totalemente diverso.
Io lavoro nella grafica 3d da 18 anni , e ogni aggiornamento ha delle novità, per questo bisogna attendere che tutte le plug in siano aggiornate, e' una cosa normale.
Io uso SR dalla versione 0.5, è un ottimo plug in, e esso si è sempre dimostrato all'altezza delle aspettative.
Le vostre critiche sono ingisute e NON MOTIVATE.
Voi desiderata che vray diventa piu' veloce ?ok, allora non potete lamentarvi.
Per risolvere il problema potete continuare ad usare Vray 3.2.
Se il non avere SR è per voi un limite nel lavoro, significa che non siete veri utenti Vray.
SR ha sempre realizzato aggiornamenti in tempi rapidi, e , io ripeto, se non comprendete quanto è grande la differenza tra v-ray 3.2 e 3.3 non per qualità ma per come è pensato il sampler , di cosa parlate????
se io ho tradotto male i vostri messaggi, io vi chiedo scusa anticipatamente
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